UPDATED – Canon EOS-1D X Mark II images and specification leaked (Dual Pixel, 20MP, 4K@60fps etc) [CW5]

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Specification and images of the upcoming Canon EOS-1D X Mark II leaked at Digicame-Info. The long touted 22MP sensor resolution turned out to be a hoax.

EDIT: Digicame-Info posted an updated and more detailed EOS-1D X Mark II spec list.:

  • 20.2MP CMOS sensor. Dynamic range improvement 
  • Dual pixel CMOS AF 
  • Dual DIGIC6 + processor 
  • ISO100-51200 (expanded in 409600) 
  • Continuous shooting of 14 frames / sec. 16 frames / second in the live view mode 
  • New mirror drive system that enables high-speed continuous shooting 
  • Continuous shooting The number of storable RAW at 170 frames (at 16 frames / sec.). Unlimited in JPEG 
  • 61-point AF system, which range is expanded. 41-point cross-type 
  • AF is -3EV correspondence 
  • With lighting AF point red
  • AI AF accuracy and motion tracking has improved Servo AF III +
  • 360000 dot photometric sensor. EOS iSA. EOS iTR
  • 0.76 times the viewfinder magnification. 100% field of view
  • Video 4K 60fps. Full HD120fps. 4K video can be recorded in internal CFast2.0 media
  • Movie Servo AF
  • LCD monitor 3.2 inches, 1.62 million dots. Touch panel.
  • Camera digital lens Optimizer (DLO). Lens aberration correction. Diffraction correction
  • CFast2.0 and compact flash of dual card slot
  • GPS built-in
  • 2-axis electronic level
  • USB3.0 terminal, HDMI terminal
  • W-FI option (WFT-E8A)
  • The size of 158mm x 167.6mm x 82.6mm
  • Weight 1340g

As you can see many of the rumoured specs turned out to be reliable, other were not. This is going to be Canon’s next powerhouse for the professional photographers.

Stay tuned for more images coming soon. The announcement of the Canon EOS-1D X Mark II is expected on Monday next week.

[via Digicame-Info]
  • dean johnson

    I waited 4 years for the 1Dx mk1.5 ……im gonna pay 6,000 so I’ll have DPAF on my video over my 1Dx…..Im so compelled to purchase.

    I need sample images at ISO 3200 side by side taken with the original 1Dx and the mk1.5 in a terribly lit gym.

    • Wade Marks

      What would happen if the 1DX II were priced around $5000? How would that change your perception?

      There’s a commenter on dpreview.com, who has been right so far in his predictions about the 1DX II, who hints that it will come in closer to the $5000 price tag. So think about that: the original 1DX came out at about $6800; if this is true then you will be able to get a !DX II, which is better in every way, for far less.

      I think it would be a great move on Canon’s part if they released this camera at such a price point; in this market for cameras, it will go over very very well. And at that price point it will induce more serious enthusiasts who have the money to move to the pro body.

    • It’s a good camera, just buy it. If you don’t like – give it to me 🙂

  • SteB1

    I think the interesting bit is going to be the sensor and the supposed dynamic range improvement. As I said the other day a senior Canon executive interviewed on Imaging Resource a while back said that they were moving to on board analogue to digital converters like Sony sensors, to you would expect an increase in dynamic range. What was interesting was he said they were going to change all their sensors to this design. So what will be interesting is what timeframe this happens in. If the 1D X mkII has a sensor with an on board analogue to digital converter, it is likely other Canon DSLRs will start getting them as models are replaced. It will be interesting to see how they compare to Sony sensors and Nikons, because of course this is the one area where Canon have been lagging.

    • peevee

      For a low light sports/event camera like that it does not matter.

      • SteB1

        Then why are Canon even bothering to highlight increased dynamic range?

        The 1D X is also used by a lot of wildlife photographers.

        • peevee

          “Then why are Canon even bothering to highlight increased dynamic range?”

          Extra positive point never hurts in advertisement.

          • SteB1

            PS. Even sports shooters don’t just take photos in low light, and the 1D X is used by lots more than sport shooters as I said. Dynamic range is important to a lot of Canon DSLR users. But then so are the lenses, and the whole package. Canon know they have lagged behind with DR and obviously they want to address that, and I’m certain they will. It’s just a question of in what timeframe.

      • LittleCam

        D I understand correctly? DR does not matter for lowlight and sports-event this much?

        • peevee

          The “DR” everybody so hypes about is really “DR at base ISO”, determined by readout noise at which sensors with off-sensor ADC (including Canon’s) lose to sensors with on-sensor ADC due to longer analogue transmission. At high ISO (above about ISO 400-800) readout noise is completely swamped by shot noise (amplitude of which relative to amplitude of signal increases by ~41% with each stop of ISO, while readout noise stays constant) and totally insignificant, so DR also becomes practically the same.

          You can very clearly see the effect on DxOMark’s DR graphs, where Canon’s DR flattens as ISO decreases, while Sony-sensored cam DR keeps growing.

          http://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Compare/Side-by-side/Sony-A7R-II-versus-Nikon-D810-versus-Canon-EOS-1Dx___1035_963_753

          • For sports / BIF it’s actually a huge luck to go under ISO 800… But whatever increase they brought to us is very welcome 🙂

          • peevee

            “For sports / BIF it’s actually a huge luck to go under ISO 800…”

            Exactly, so DR at base ISO does not apply.

  • Wade Marks

    This new camera will obviously be a great camera…the pro bodies always are. On the stills side it appears to be an incremental update; as others note, it will be interesting to see about any sensor improvements. On the video side the camera adds 4K and DPAF, which are nice…but I wonder how many users of this camera actually use the video feature.

    So for a stills shooter, I wonder how many will be compelled to update from the current 1DX. In fact the current 1DX can be bought new for about $4500…at one time there was a sale bundled with printer for about $4200…so for a stills shooter that may be a better buy at this point.

    What is really interesting is how this foreshadows the next 5D….from this it would appear that the 5d iv will get a modest increase in resolution, the better sensor tech, 4K and DPAF. I sure wish they would add an articulating touch screen. You don’t realize how nice an articulating touch screen is until you use one, and if the primary upgrades are going to be to the video side, that makes an articulating touch screen even more important and useful.

    • Stewart Shields

      You can expect another not-insignificant price drop on the remaining 1DX stock. Probably into the mid-upper 3000 range. Used copies will fall even more. So $4500 is a non-issue after the next couple weeks

    • peevee

      ” On the stills side it appears to be an incremental update;”

      I don’t know, if it can use quiet electronic shutter only (or at least electronic first curtain) in live view with good AF with mirror up, it will be a big improvement for event photogs in some situations.

      • Wade Marks

        True. And the meter is better, all 61 AF points can do f8, the DPAF, etc..all make for some nice new features.

        I am glad that it has the touch screen as well…it will be interesting to see to what extent.

  • myNameIsCondor

    No word about high ISO?

    • Iki

      Based on the 20mp sensor (and flagship status) one would hope it keeps up with the nikon d5.

    • peevee

      Just a usual sensor with Bayer array. They are all about the same at high ISO. Drastic changes in sensor architecture are needed to improve high ISO performance significantly.

      • myNameIsCondor

        ISO performance has improved significantly. (A7S, A7RII, D5, D500)

        I’m just curious if Canon will be able to compete with Sony and Nikon in ISO performance. There are pretty promising 5Div rumors out there.

        • peevee

          “ISO performance has improved significantly. (A7S, A7RII, D5, D500)”

          Proof? DxOMark shows them (tested ones, not the new Nikons) all the same.

          Specifically, the tested A7s and A7rII show the same performance as 2012 Nikon D800E.
          (A7rII obviously cheats – RAW NR – starting from at least nominal 51200, A7s from nominal 102400, as clearly seen on their graphs).
          http://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Compare/Side-by-side/Sony-A7R-II-versus-Sony-A7S-versus-Nikon-D800E___1035_949_814

          • MdB

            “A7rII obviously cheats” – Proof?

            Nikon RAW NR is more obvious to me.

            “Proof? DxOMark shows them (tested ones, not the new Nikons) all the same.”

            Here you go (from your own link), not sure why you didn’t compare Canon, considering the topic, but ok:

          • peevee

            Proof right there in the graph you put these, see that linearity break at the right side?

        • Rick

          Nope.. ISO performance hasn’t improved significantly.. here’s the 1DX .. and normalized for the pixel pitches.. neligible

          4+ year old 1DX ..against the newer ones.. not seeing this “significant” difference?

          • myNameIsCondor

            I don’t know what “normalized for the pixel pitches” means, but we are talking about cameras, which means, the only thing that counts is, how the actual photographs look. So, the whole photograph, normalized to the same print size or pixel count (which is equal), shows significant improvements. That’s what I believe in, my eyes.

            The results from a A7S look impressive, magnitudes better than anything I saw before on a regular camera. Your graphs show exactly the opposite, which makes them irrelevant for anyone, who is actually interested in the photographic results.

          • Rick

            because with any camera, you can reduce the output to 12MP (as with the A7S) and get better output than per pixel. I can run NR on a 42MP image and then size reduce it down, it will look better.

            so no, it’s not really that impressive.

            what’s irrelevant is you thinking that per pixel quality means something when comparing across various output sizes.

          • myNameIsCondor

            I’m talking exactly about that, the results normalized to the same resolution, which means in the case of the A7S, 12MP.

            The results from the A7S, compared to these of any other camera downsized to 12MB, are impressive to me. That is especially true in tungsten light, which is often the case in low light scenarios.

            If you are unimpressed, fine, I’m impressed.

          • Rick

            I guess you are easily impressed about nothing.

            however how they manage blue channel noise on the A7SII is impressive, however it’s SO impressive, it looks like it’s scrubbed aka like Fuji does their RAWs.

            however your FIRST comment as that the generation of Sony sensors are SO far more advanced than Canon’s .. but we’re not seeing it.

            a 12MP camera tuned for high ISO? meh.

            blue channel noise is actually HIGHER on the A7RII than it is the A7R under tungsten light.

            and the 1DX was no slouch. 4 years old and was already better than the current editions of A7RII ..

            both the D4S and the 1DX Mark II were within quibble points to each other.

  • SoapyEyes

    “Video 4K 60fps

    either

    A: the camera does have full 30 minute 4k recording, in which case it will use massive heatsinks
    B: the spec is a lie and it only shoots for 3 minutes like the D5, and only at 30fps

    going to go with B

    • SoapyEyes

      I forgot

      C: the camera overheats every 2 minutes like the Sony full frame cameras and shuts down, lol

      • the flasher

        actually the latest sony firmware fixed the overheating issue. : http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/new-a7rii-firmware-update-fixes-overheating-issue-watch-the-test/

      • myNameIsCondor

        Or:

        D: it shoots for 1.5 minutes at 60fps

      • ryanyomomma

        Only fanboys will take cheap shots at it’s competitor, every chance they got.

        Sometimes, I’m ashamed of being in the Canon community because of people like you. It’s completely possible to have more than one system of cameras and use them harmoniously. My 5D/a7SII combo seems to suit me fine. Also, firmware took care of the now-elusive Sony overheating issue that you fanboys continue to use.

        It’s like how console-only peasants continue to use the “gaming PC’s are so expensive” when builds like the $350 Potato Masher build is running next gen games better than consoles. Different argument; same smell.

        • Iki

          Really? the 500+ $ potato masher (they did not include everything it takes to build a pc, nor a keyboard ad mouse) and the parts were on sale…
          And it only got 5-6 fps more than consoles, which are cheaper, have a blueray player, and bigger hdd…

          If anything, your sentance should be rewritten into; “it’s like how pc gamers think they can make a pc for the same cost as a console”

          • Iki

            It also did not include an OS… which is an extra 120$… If you are not counting it, remove it from the price of the ps4. ( 350$ – 120$ = 230$)
            And if you are not going to count the costs of a keyboard and mouse, remove the cost of them from the ps4 also. (thata another -50$. total is now 230$ – 50$ = 180$)
            It ran crysis 3 at 35 fps… the ps3 ran crysis 3 at a tiny bit less settings at 30 fps…
            to bad we don’t get to see how crysis 3 runs on a ps4…

            Oh, and to make it fare, we should probably remove the cost of the two free games you get with the ps4 also? that would be -100$
            (we are now at 80$ vs 350$, and the ps4 isn’t even on sale… while parts of the pc is… And the ps4 has a 500gb hdd while the pc has a 320…)

            Now, he also got the parts cheaper than they would normally be…
            I5 750 = 150$ (on sale)
            Asus p7h55 = not for sale anymore, was 100$
            4GB DDR3 = about 20$ depending… (on sale)
            GTX 760 = 150$ (on sale)
            320GB Samsung Spinpoint HDD = 55$
            Cooler Master Wavemaster Case = 147$ (if you can find any store that sells it)
            Arctic Alpine 11 GT = 11$ (on sale)

            Total = 633$

            That is 633$ without controller and OS. Add 50$ and 120$ and the total is 803$

            Ps4 = 350$ (not on sale)
            Potato masher = 803$ (on sale, and parts you can’t buy)

          • Iki

            Firstly, let me just say that i do not own a console…
            Secondly, let me just say… If you are allowed to make up the rules the way you yourself want in order to win, you did not win…
            I could probably get a ps4 with a broken hdd for 5$, and replace the hdd with a new one i got for free… That makes the ps4 5$ does it?

          • Iki

            Well, i just proved that consoles are cheaper… you have done nothing to prove your point. I win…

          • Iki

            As you fail to come up with anything to disprove my proof I can only come to the conclusion that you are trying to troll, or does not know anything about this…
            It seems to me that you just watched a video on youtube and belived everything they said in it…

            All my prices are from amazon, or the cheapest price from the first 4 google sites of said product. (I did not include ebay and other auction/used sites, as that is not related to the price of a ps4)

            Now you could say that you could get an OS for free… (linux and steam) but both of those are really bad for gaming.

          • Iki

            Here you go… pcpartspicker, as you yourself said i should.
            As there were no psu, case or drive i took the cheapest i could find… and notice that the motherboard has no price… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b05b005c240628aa948bbbfc1d81bfb241c3e99febf6d5e69a0f0a2d6e50b138.jpg

          • Iki

            557$ on pcpartspicker… That is with the cheapest parts i could find (of the ones used in the potato masher)
            As it did not mention any psu, OS or drive i had to choose the cheapest.
            Also, there was no case, so i chose the cheapest.
            And the motherboard showed no price at all.

          • Iki

            Since you don’t reply i take it you have come to understand that you were wrong.

          • Iki

            I did exactly as you said I should… I went to the pcpartspicker site, and used only the cheapest parts on the site. (by sorting for cheapest)
            I used the exact build the potato masher uses, and it came to over $500 without a case and a motherboard…
            Now tell me, how is that cheaper than $350?
            You can’t.
            You are just a troll…
            I won.

          • Iki

            As you can’t come up with any proof of your argument, you have failed.
            Again. The potato masher is a $600+ pc. IT does NOT compare to a $350 ps4.
            You can NOT build a pc better than a ps4 at it’s price.
            If you do not believe me, check that pcpartspicker site you yourself stated as an educational site…
            You are a sheep, believing everything you hear that puts your product in a better light.
            You are nothing more than a bad troll.

          • ryanyomomma

            What’s that? All I’m getting from you is that you’re a neckbeard who can’t get over things because all you do is comment and probably flip burgers because that’s all your life is worth. Who are you exactly talking to?

          • Iki

            Hah… can’t come up with a real factual comeback so he tries to take it out on me… See… That is what makes you a troll. You do not have any proof of your side of the argument, while i have given you lots of proof to debunk it.

          • ryanyomomma

            What’s that? Still no life? Still living in moms basement? Please be clear and concise. You”re saying that your life is composed of neckbearding on a discussion forum about cameras?

          • Iki

            Come with one proof of a pc at the price of $350 beating a ps4. Go on. Do it. You can’t. The ps4 is better than a $350 pc. And you know it.

          • ryanyomomma

            Come with one proof of a you beating me in life. Go on. Do it. You can’t. I have more of a life than you. And you know it. Kappa

          • Iki

            I won.

          • ryanyomomma

            Won a participation trophy. I won in life…. Because I’m just better than you in every single way possible

          • Iki

            You lost.

          • ryanyomomma

            Oh no. I am forever ruined! Now i’ll never be able to recover! Now i’ll never get raised I always wanted! Welp, better go end myself now that I lost to you. ;__;

          • Iki

            And you just proved yourself as a troll and a sheep… good luck in life, you probably need it.

          • ryanyomomma

            You say that as if trolling is a bad thing.. Only for people like you, though. And i’m pretty set in life, unlike yourself, not only living with mom but you’re living in the comment section. You only brought this on yourself.

          • Iki

            You have replied to all my comments, that means you are on here just as much as me.. Now, you don’t know how i look, where i’m from, where i live, and so on. So you know as little about me as you know about computers it seems…

          • ryanyomomma

            Norway… that’s a start. Shall I dig in deeper? lol You still have no life. And like I said, YOU brought this on yourself… you could’ve ignored my little pseudo-bait like everyone else did. The only reason this is still going on is because YOU choose to. Now will you continue this? I work for the next 8 hours… honestly, if you choose to, I’ll continue to insult you while I start to fetch more metadata on you. Please, continue.. and continue to think I know nothing about computers. I just found where you’re located within 5 minutes of you posting.

          • Iki

            Norway is a huge country, you may try, but you won’t come any closer.
            And i mentioned living in norway in a post a few hours ago… It’s not hard to find such info…

          • ryanyomomma

            That’s for you to tell yourself, no-life. You really want to continue this? It’s all up to you. Keep posting. Like I said, 8 hours to play with you, all while I still get paid and you still neckbeard in the basement.

          • Iki

            Sorry to say, i don’t live in a basement.
            Go on, tell me more about where and how i live… I would really love to see how amazing you are with those tracking skills of yours.

          • ryanyomomma

            Ah, but you didn’t deny that you have no-life, so you got that going for you. 🙂 You really do live in a basement, only neckbeards persist with continuing comments (let alone take bait) like you.

          • Iki

            I do not have a beard, as i know how to shave. And i don’t live in a basement. I have a life, if not, i would not be able to comment back. Or am i a ghost?

          • Iki

            Don’t know if you have realised this… But i’m not getting angry at your comments, so you are failing really hard at your “trolling”… It is in fact I who am keeping you here, not the other way around…

          • ryanyomomma

            But nah, you can’t turn that around on me. You started the reply. Not me. You could’ve easily ignored it.. but here we are… well, here you are.. believe me, the more you comment, regardless of how “not mad” you’re going to tell me, I will keep going. It’s all on you, and nothing to me.

          • Iki

            But it is on you. You are also continuing to respond, making it seem like you have less of a life than me.
            Especially since my comments contains some factual information, while yours only contain lazy insults.

          • ryanyomomma

            But no, you’re still wrong. You see, it appears that you have this “I need the absolute last word” thing going for you. You originally replied to my first message. You initiated all of this, and I’m gonna keep giving it to you until you realize this and you just stop. You have so many outs. You can stop commenting and move on with your life. Get a job at McDonalds or something. Everyone needs a burger flipper. mmmm A burger. That actually sounds real nice right now. I’m sure that when I get back to my office, I still find you where I left you last… continually replying instead of not taking the hint and just stopping. It’s cool, No-Life.

          • Iki

            You were the one spewing out false information about a pc build…
            Then start attacking me when I point it out…
            I have a job.

          • ryanyomomma

            See? Last word. And you still had the conscious choice of just ignoring it and moving on with your (non)life. And yet, here you are.. still trying to comment. In the time you spent sitting your a** and doing nothing, I managed to get lunch and seal a vending deal for my job (an actual job.. not like your McDonalds job). But hey, it’s none of my business.

          • Iki

            It seems more like you’re the one needing to have the last word…
            Again, you don’t even know where I live, what makes you think there’s a McDonald’s around?
            And what on earth makes you think I don’t do anything else than comment on this forum?
            I don’t expect someone like you to understand tho…

          • ryanyomomma

            Do you self-redact? How do you do that man? Like selective reading? Selective comprehending? You know… “And YOU still had the CONSCIOUS choice of just IGNORING it and MOVING ON with your (NON)life.” Go on now… go add the last word, burger flipper.

          • Iki

            Again, you try all you can to insult me.. Are you having issues of some kind?
            You can also ignore me, but you don’t, I wonder why?

          • ryanyomomma

            Herp derp I troll cuz I lose so bad to internet argument. I cry and lose sense of proper grammar. What ever will I do? I think.. I think.. I think I just moved on. At the end of the day, you took considerable amount of time and effort for a whole lot of nothing. It really effects you some kind of way to keep going because you obviously get off on it… All while I chill, laugh at your quaint efforts, and enjoy everything that’s not this. Herp derp le trollface

          • Iki

            “we did not include an Os. We did not include a drive. We did not include a mouse and keyboard”
            “every part we used was used, and we got them for way cheaper than anyone could”
            The system has less and worse ram, it has less functions, less everything. The only better part is the gpu.
            It cost way more than a ps4.
            And in the video you posted, it runs almost exactly the same as the ps4 version, but cost $300 more…
            The potato masher is a fraud.

      • LittleCam

        Sony don’t overheat at 2 minute-mark!!! angry-facepalm!!!

        …battery runs out before

        • ryanyomomma

          Except, that doesn’t happen either, fanboy.

    • peevee

      Only the most boring talking-head like videos require more than 3 minute takes, and you can do them with a smartphone.
      In modern movies, a typical uninterrupted take is between 1 to 10 seconds. In sports, it is between 5 seconds and a couple of minutes.

      • myNameIsCondor

        The first take in Gravity is 15 minutes! In p*rn you have much longer takes than 3 min. 😉

        Just kidding, you are right.

      • LittleCam

        betamax had a 30min recording time – enough for every home made video. And nevertheless bad quality VHS with 90min+ replaced it!

        • peevee

          Something to do with prices for players and cassettes maybe? 😉

          • LittleCam

            No.
            Sony was thinking about homevideo-makers and decided 30 cassette is enough. But they did’t consider most customers were just consumers, recording complete movies from TV.
            3 min recording limit is enough for professional film makers that need 20 sec takes only. But here we are talking about a minority of all people using a D5. The mass is doing boring 10min self clips. Or people like me, filming a complete dance show on stage. My longest one was 15 minutes with great story telling!

          • peevee

            “The mass is doing boring 10min self clips.”

            The mass is doing under-6-second videos on Vine. 🙂

          • myNameIsCondor

            He meant the mass of D5 users.

          • peevee

            The mass of D5 users shoot series of still in sports venues. Now they will have the choice of doing 4k@30fps for that critical jump etc.

        • MdB

          “betamax had a 30min recording time – enough for every home made video. And nevertheless bad quality VHS with 90min+ replaced it!”

          …in the consumer space.

      • LittleCam

        You have a camera with great battery life and great lowlight sensor, but can’t even film a press conference (like Matt G. filmed D5 / D500 announcement)

        • myNameIsCondor

          A press conference in 4k? Well, okay. As a photojournalist, the 3min limit is restricting, but it’s not that much of a problem. For anything cinematic, you can easily record externally.

          • LittleCam

            Sure 4K, even in a press conference. If there are slides presented you can read them. 3min limit? hahaha good joke!
            But Condor, I know your preferences: a camera without any modern gizmos, but it must have good quality and it has to be small. No wonder you don’t want an upgrade of a6000. And if upgraded, then no new features. If it is up to you, you want a downgraded a6100 – no popup Flash, no tilt screen, I guess a 12 mp sensor and I am not sure if you need even video at all. And beware of IBIS (IBIS = modern devils stuff).
            After reading some of your comments I don’t understand why you are interested in new cameras at all…

          • myNameIsCondor

            “…I know your preferences…” No, you dont’t. That’s why you don’t understand why I’m interested in new cameras. 😉

          • LittleCam

            I know you want a good lowlight sensor.
            BSI would be great – and less mp.
            And a small body – without EVF is okay for you.
            Popup-Flash: no – it can break.
            IBIS: no – it makes the Body bigger (and more expensive)
            The rest was just guessing… I think no tiltscreen – could break. Honestly no idea about your video preferences. And no idea about your opinion about touchdisplay…
            And you are right – I have absolutely no idea why you are interested in new cameras. A5100 comes really close to your wishlist – except a 12 mp BSI lowlight sensor.
            What exactly shoud your dream camera look like?

          • myNameIsCondor

            There are three reasons why I’m interested in Sony cameras:

            1. State Of The Art sensors
            2. Big sensors in tiny bodies
            3. Good value

            Why should my desire for rugged built quality contradict my interest in new cameras? Nikon finally ditched the pop up flash in the D500, which is a new camera (and added a flip-screen, LOL).

            I’m not “reactionary” (in regard to cameras) in any way. And yes the A5100 comes close to my wishlist, but I’m not interested because my A6000 is even closer. I love the A6000, even if the EVF is terrible.

            If the A6100 has significantly better low light performance, at the same body size and the same price point, I’ll probably buy one.

            And please do me the favor and don’t take my statements out of their context. I’m critical towards IBIS, because it made the beloved A7 bigger, and would/will also make the A6000 bigger. I never said or meant it’s modern devils stuff. 😉

            I don’t know if IBIS is resposible for the massive price jump of the whole A7 lineup, it’s just guessing.

            And yes, I don’t want the A6000 successor to be a mini A7Rii, like many on SAR. That’s my opinion. What the h*ll is wrong with that?

      • krisak

        Oh, FFS. This again.

        Plenty of uses for rolling the camera to card capacity, and sorting out the footage in post. Working with nature / wildlife footage I do that all the time with a GH4.

        Just because YOU don’t have a use for it, doesn’t mean others don’t.

  • SoapyEyes

    “Weight 1340g”

    jesus, even heavier than the 1DX

  • Stewart Shields

    We don’t have anywhere close to all the facts yet on this. No metering info for starters. And the rest of what has been mentioned from digi-came isn’t necessarily 100% accurate.

    For example, this claims another 61pt AF system. The 7D2 however used a brand new 65pt AF all cross type. Now the claim is the 1DX2 uses all user selectable points that are all fully active with f8 maximum capable lenses. That’s a 400L f5.6 with a 1.4x teleconvertor on it. Or A 400L, 600L, etc f4 with a 2x. That’s pretty huge for the people who really use this camera. That’s a great upgrade. But I still wonder about the 61 figure when Canon already has 65 elsewhere. There were also a lot of rumors about far more AF points than 61 from several sources previously. So again, I’m taking this list with a grain of salt and waiting to hear the official, COMPLETE spec unveiling on Monday before I get all riled up over what could just as well be wrong in at least some areas.

    • Rick

      see CR.. more specs are added.. looks pretty good actually

      • Stewart Shields

        Far as I can see, CR posted the same list from Digi-Came last night that CW posted this morning, so nothing new. Either way it’s all still rumor until Monday

        • SteveHood

          Some additional specs here.

          20.2MP CMOS sensor with dynamic range improvement
          Dual pixel CMOS AF
          ISO: 100-51200 (expanded in 409600)
          61-point AF system, expanded range, 41-point cross-type, all of the distance measuring points can be selected
          At f/8, 61 points can be selected
          AF is -3EV
          360000 dot photometric sensor. EOS iSA. EOS iTR
          0.76 times the viewfinder magnification. 100% field of view
          Improved AI AF accuracy and motion tracking Servo AF III +
          Dual DIGIC6 + processor
          New mirror drive system that enables high-speed continuous shooting
          Video 4K 60fps. Full HD120fps, 4K video can be recorded in internal CFast2.0 media
          Movie servo AF
          Continuous shooting up to14 fps, 16 fps in live view mode
          Continuous shooting in RAW: 170 frames (at 16 frames / sec.), unlimited in JPEG
          Dual pixel CMOS AF, enables smooth AF with 4K video
          LCD monitor 3.2 inches, 1.62 million dots. Touch panel.
          Camera digital lens Optimizer (DLO), lens aberration correction, diffraction correction
          CFast2.0 and compact flash slots
          GPS built-in
          USB3.0 terminal, HDMI terminal
          Dust and water resistant
          Wi-Fi option (WFT-E8)
          Dimensions: 158mm x 167.6mm x 82.6mm
          Weight: 1340g

    • peevee

      Yeah, corner points at f/8 is pretty unbelievable. As in hard to believe.

  • rzero21

    No mention of ISO range. Interesting

  • peevee

    Nice specs.
    About ergonomics I am not so sure. Yes, it is better than their smaller cameras, you can actually use the rear wheel while holding it by your right hand, but I still don’t understand what kind of flexibility your right index finger has to have to comfortably reach that dial on top while holding it tight.

    • MdB

      Gee… Let’s see… About the same as reaching the shutter button? Not that that one is very important.

      Rear dial is more problematic IMO.

      • peevee

        It is even higher than the shutter button, and vertical-oriented, while shutter button is at about 45 degrees. But controls on top are only easy to reach on compact cameras without grip, where index finger look up, not forward like a big grip makes it to.
        At least my hand works this way. Maybe Canon-people hands are different. BTW, I don’t have usability problems like that on Nikon, Pentax and everything else decently sized, and don’t have arthritis etc. So I guess it is not because my hand is broken.

  • Jon Hellier
  • Pancanikonpus

    Weight 1340g!

  • Bo Dez

    Ug, What is with that hump? Ug-gerrrrr-lee.