Canon EOS 80D coming with 28MP and new Auto-Focus system? [CW3]

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After all those fake rumors, I was glad to hear news from one of my trusted sources. This source may be wrong but at least it is not intentionally delivering fake rumors.

I have been told (thanks) that the Canon EOS 80D will feature a 28MP sensor. The source mentioned also a “more advanced AF system” (compared to the EOS 70D). I am not sure what to think here. I do not believe the EOS 80D will get the same advanced AF system as the EOS 7D Mark II, but anything is possible. If I am not wrong, there was a rumor floating around the web a month or two ago that also suggested a high resolution for the EOS 80D.

The source also said that the EOS 80D will get some of the features of higher models. The 70D got the AF system of the EOS 7D, and it is usual practice by Canon to add features of higher models in a new mid-level camera. So what can we expect from the EOS 80D? Other rumors I got (by less reputable or unknown sources) suggest the EOS 80D will get the anti-flickering technology employed on the EOS 7D Mark II but I am somewhat sceptical about this feature being implemented on a mid-level DSLR like the EOS 80D. Dual Pixel AF will not get lost, that’s sure. It will likely have a new AF system but it is unclear how advanced it will be. In the past I got a suggestion the EOS 80D may have focus peaking on board (introduced with the EOS M3). That would be a powerful and very welcome addition to the next xxD model, though I do not think Canon will feature it on a DSLR. WiFi and NFC will also be on board, but no GPS. Another suggestion I got, says the EOS 80D will have something around 8fps (the 70D has 7fps), which is a plausible frame rate for this camera. Sure thing that the EOS 80D will have a tiltable display, one memory card slot, and no dual CPU (like 7D2). Please note that it may still be early to have reliable specs for the EOS 80D. Take anything with the usual salt.

The EOS 70D was announced in July 2013. Since the announcement of EOS 60D Canon released a new xxD model every three years. 2016 would be year of the EOS 80D. There have also been some suggestion about the announcement, nothing to take seriously. The EOS 80D will likely be announced in Summer 2016. However, given Canon recent and not foreseen announcements and technological innovations, I wouldn’t be too much surprised if the EOS 80D would be announced before the expected time-frame.

Stay tuned…

  • lw

    Anti-flicker is even implemented on the recent T6s/760
    http://kbsupport.cusa.canon.com/system/selfservice.controller?CONFIGURATION=1011&PARTITION_ID=1&secureFlag=false&TIMEZONE_OFFSET=&CMD=VIEW_ARTICLE&ARTICLE_ID=71453
    so would be very surprised if not in the 80D, or any other Canon DSLR above the 760 in future

  • PH

    Sounds like too many megapixels and just more incremental updates – nothing to see here, keep walking.

  • SteB1

    I think the important question is when will the first Canon sensors with on chip analogue to digital converters come out. It was revealed in the Imaging Resource interview a few weeks back, that Canon intended to eventually change all it’s sensors to on chip converters. But there’s no time schedule for it.

  • moment

    *yawn*

  • peevee

    Yeah, Samsung 28mpix BSI-CMOS sensor with OSPDAF would be welcome. But they’d need a fast (Samsung?) processor to handle it, Canon’s CPUs are way behind too.

    • Yawn

      Buy a Samsung before it shuts down and be happy. It’s perfect for lens cap photography.

      • Wade Marks

        You are so correct: Samsung is getting out of the camera business…too bad for their customers.

        Samsung is another gadget manufacturer that doesn’t understand photography, like Sony. And Sony also abandons its customers. Sony appears to have abandoned their A mount customers. Sony now also seems to be abandoning their APS-C NEX customers as well. It seems all Sony wants to support are their A7 FE series cameras. Who knows before that fades?

        Many have noted this, but a serious photographer, pro or amateur, buys into a an entire system, not one camera or one sensor. For now there are really only 2 serious photographic systems: Canon and Nikon.

        • Mr. Low Notes

          I’m a Canon fan and user too but Samsung and Sony are not gadget manufacturers. Both are very large and diverse companies. Samsung giving up on cameras is just a rumor. Do you have any links that prove otherwise?

          I pretty much agree with you on everything else.

          • Wade Marks

            You are correct: I am just going on the rumors of Samsung leaving the camera business.

            You are correct in that Samsung not only makes gadgets, but makes a variety of stuff, including TV’s, home appliances, and some very good components for other brands.

            As for Sony, they have a great sensor business. They also do good pro level video cameras and TV sets.

            So I do stand corrected: I was more or less thinking of both of their forays into the still camera market, as well as some other stuff, like their smartphones. For both companies, when it comes to consumer electronics, their gestalt seems to be rather “gadgety.”

          • Mr. Low Notes

            I would tend to agree with your last paragraph. Especially with Samsung. Kind of a “me too” thing with cameras. The higher end one anyways. Sony is probably a little more legit since they bought Minolta, er, Konica Minolta. I liked Minolta and hated to see them sellout to Sony. But they waited way too long to roll out a DSLR and I think that done them in. In fact I got tired of waiting on them to put out a DSLR and went Canon back in 2004. I’ve been pleased with the 6 Canon cameras I’ve owned since plus 4 printers. Got an 11 year old i960 still going strong. Also Got a Pro 10 and Maxify MB2320….. So I’m not stuck in the past either. Lol!

        • MdB

          Yes, the diverse array of EF-S lenses from Canon over 10 years is eye watering, I mean it only took them 10 years to deliver an APS-C prime (non macro) lens. Poor, poor E-Mount users they have been so hard done by.

          • Wade Marks

            With regards to APS-C, with Canon I have far more lens options…both EF-S and of course the EF lenses, many of which are smaller and more affordable and work superbly on the crop sensor cameras. I realize with Sony you can indeed use FE lenses on the crop cameras…but far less options, and the good ones tend to be larger and more expensive. So on overall lens ecosystem, Canon wins by far.

            But here’s the rub: Sony with their camera bodies seems to be drifting away from the NEX APS-C bodies. They used to release these very frequently; now it’s silence from Sony. They still have yet to relese the A6000 successor, even though it’s been widely rumored. They still have yet to release a true NEX 7 successor.

            In short, they seem to be employing the same strategy they used with the A mount: basically just stop creating any new models…but still leave their customers hanging with no official word. All of their resources seems to be dedicated to the A7 series.

            Canon, OTOH, is continuing to release APS-C bodies…no doubts that Canon is sticking with that. And sure there may be some gaps to fill with EF-S lenses…but crop shooters are hardly lacking in lens options with Canon.

          • MdB

            Well then you have completely misunderstood the ‘complaints’ about E-Mount from users.

  • I hope it has 50p 1080 and focus peaking at least. It’s 2015…

    • MdB

      Yes it would be nice in 2016 (when the camera is meant to land) for it to have circa-2012 video features. Maybe they will really shake things up and put 2K in it!

  • Wade Marks

    I would venture to say that much of Canon’s income from cameras these last few years has come from their 5d mark iii and their 70d models (and the associated lens sales they have produced). These occupy sweet spots so far as features, pricing, size, etc are concerned. I would also venture to say that much of Canon’s prestige in the photographic industry these past few years has come from these 2 models.

    Hence, the most important new releases for them coming up are the 5d mark iv and the 80d.

    • Mr. Low Notes

      That’s interesting. I would have thought the bulk of their camera sales came from the Rebel series and point and shoots they sell at Walmart, Target…. Ect. I see more people using those than 5Ds (any version) or xxD series.

      • Wade Marks

        Well…it’s only my speculation… and probably by volume the greatest sales for Canon are their Rebel series.

        However, when considering volume and selling price, my guess is that the 5diii and 70d are pretty important to the bottom line for the camera division. Also, these models would both represent buyers more willing to purchase additional lenses other than just the kit lenses that come with the camera.

        Anecdotally, I’ve actually probably seen more people out in public using the 70D than any other model of Canon camera. The 70D has proven to be very popular.

        Also, I believe these models have been foundational for establishing the image and prestige of Canon in the camera world. But again it’s only my opinion.

  • It’s almost 2016. The 80D should shoot 4K—plain and simple. Sony is putting 4K in just about everything. Actually, If Canon updates the G7X with a little more of a rugged body (suggested by youtube vloggers like Casey Niestat) and 4K video, it will definitely be the choice camera for most vloggers. For the 80D, a dual card slot and a headphone jack would be nice to haves, but 4K is almost mandatory (at this point in the game). Canon would be doing themselves a big disservice by not matching the power that other companies are offering the consumer.

    • david

      60p too, at a minimum.

  • 250ninja

    I have a 6D, 70D, and M3. They do everything I want. I take the 6D with me for landscape and outdoor photography. The 70D for sports or telephoto work. The M3 for traveling. I used to buy a new model within 6 months of it being introduced. The improvement from the 60D to 70D was well worth it. After I enlarged a shot to 24×36 at costco and saw the resolution of the 6D up close, I no longer cared about getting a higher megapixel camera. If I do buy a 6DII and 80D it will be a year or so after they are available and have been heavily discounted. Did you see how much the 5DS, 5DSr, 7DII dropped in price within the first year?! I’ll definitely wait a year before buying. Technology has reached a point where the average photographer no longer needs to upgrade. How many need 4K video? Few of us I would guess. Unlike the 80’s and computers where each generation of CPU gave us significant to enormous speed improvements, that no longer happens. Who has upgraded their Mac or PC due to a new processor in the last 5 years? Do you even think much about the CPU when buying a computer like you used to? DSLRs have reached the same point in technology. The AF speed and FPS are plenty fast for your average photographer. My 70D is rated at 7FPS. The old Nikon F5 and F6 only did 7-8FPS with the battery pack/grip attached. Along with cell phones killing the compact market, the maturing technology in DSLRs also spells trouble for camera makers. I would buy an M4 with much faster and accurate AF and more FPS than the M3. The M3 specs may say 4FPS but it sure doesn’t seems like it shoots that fast. If the M4 had similar performance to the t6i I would buy it right away.