This Is Why The Canon EOS R Doesn’t Have IBIS (and why it may have it in future)

Canon Eos R Firmware

Canon EOS R at a glance:

  • 30.3MP Full-Frame CMOS Sensor
  • DIGIC 8 Image Processor
  • UHD 4K30 Video; C-Log & 10-Bit HDMI Out
  • Dual Pixel CMOS AF, 5655 AF Points
  • 3.69m-Dot OLED Electronic Viewfinder
  • 3.15″ 2.1m-Dot Swivel Touchscreen LCD
  • Expanded ISO 50-102400, 8 fps Shooting
  • Wi-Fi and Bluetooth, SD UHS-II Card Slot
  • Multi-Function Bar, Dual Pixel RAW

As soon as the Canon EOS R was official, the Internet started to do what it likes most: complaining. Besides the ominous “2 card slot” polemics, there was another, maybe more interesting point to debate: why does the Canon EOS R not have In Camera Image Stabilisation (IBIS)?

The Nikon Z6/Z7 has it, Sony’s MILCs have it, the new medium format Fuji MILCs have it. So why not the Canon EOS R?

The people at Digital Camera World went straight to Canon UK’s product intelligence consultant, David Parry, to ask it. Here are some excerpts:

We [i.e. Canon, editor’s note] feel that in-lens IS is the optimum system for image stabilisation […]

With an in-body IS system you are creating something that needs to work over lots of different types of lenses and different lens groups, so you don’t get a dedicated system for that particular lens.

All lenses move in different ways, and you get different types of shake depending on what kind of lens you’re using, so dedicating the IS system to the particular lens is, for us, the optimum way of doing it – but that’s not to say that we aren’t looking at in-body IS.

Makes sense to me. Furthermore, Canon is very conservative when it comes to new features. My interpretation of what Mr. Parry said is that Canon might testing IBIS and that it may find its way in a future mirrorless camera.

All the new Canon gear announced ahead of Photokina 2018 can now be pre-ordered:

Pre-order the Canon EOS R in the USA: B&H Photo | Adorama | Canon USA | Amazon

Pre-order the Canon RF mount lenses in the USA: B&H Photo | Adorama | Canon USA | Amazon

Canon EOS R world-wide pre-order links:

Asia & Australia: AliExpress, Amazon JAPAN, Amazon CHINA, Amazon USA, Digitalrev, Adorama, B&H Photo, eBay Australia, Rakuten JP
Europe & UK: Amazon DE, Amazon UK, Amazon FR, Amazon IT, DigitalRev, eBay DE, Wex Photo Video, Park Cameras, Canon DE, Canon UK, Canon IT, Canon FR
USA/Canada: Amazon USA, Amazon CA, B&H Photo, Adorama, Digitalrev, KEH Camera, eBay US, Canon USA, Canon CA, BestBuy

Canon RF mount lenses world-wide pre-order links:

Asia & Australia: AliExpress, Amazon JAPAN, Amazon CHINA, Amazon USA, Digitalrev, Adorama, B&H Photo, eBay Australia, Rakuten JP
Europe & UK: Amazon DE, Amazon UK, Amazon FR, Amazon IT, DigitalRev, eBay DE, Wex Photo Video, Park Cameras, Canon DE, Canon UK, Canon IT, Canon FR
USA/Canada: Amazon USA, Amazon CA, B&H Photo, Adorama, Digitalrev, KEH Camera, eBay US, Canon USA, Canon CA, BestBuy

[via DIY Photography]

Understanding the Canon EOS R Through an Interview with Canon Executives

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HardwareZone visited the Canon headquarters in Shimomaruko, Japan, to speak with executives about the EOS R, and asked them specifically about the lack of IBIS and 4K video with the crop.

Excerpts from the interview:

Why is there no in-body image stabilization (IBIS) in the EOS R?

Shoji Kaihara: We had to look at the balance of the entire camera, like the size and other aspects. Based on that, it’s not something we are able to include in the EOS R at this time. We are quite aware that there are pros and cons to that […]

Why does the EOS R shoot 4k video with a 1.7x crop?

Shoji Kaihara: When developing the EOS R, we looked at all the hardware we had in the pipeline. When we look at the image processor and CMOS sensors that we have — we have restrictions, unfortunately, and that’s why we ended up with the 1.7x crop […]

What are the biggest challenges your team faced when developing the EOS R?

Tetsushi Hibi: It comes down to the mount size. When you go mirrorless, some restrictions get lifted. What that means is that we can go for optimum optical performance.

We wanted to make the back-focus (flange-back distance) as short as possible, and the lenses as big as possible. But then the mount would have to be larger. If the mount becomes larger, the grip gets moved out, which means a bigger camera. However, when we look at the market, the camera sizes are getting smaller […]

The full interview can be read at HardwareZone.


Pre-order the Canon EOS R in the USA: B&H Photo | Adorama | Canon USA | Amazon

Pre-order the Canon RF mount lenses in the USA: B&H Photo | Adorama | Canon USA | Amazon

Canon EOS R world-wide pre-order links:

Asia & Australia: AliExpress, Amazon JAPAN, Amazon CHINA, Amazon USA, Digitalrev, Adorama, B&H Photo, eBay Australia, Rakuten JP
Europe & UK: Amazon DE, Amazon UK, Amazon FR, Amazon IT, DigitalRev, eBay DE, Wex Photo Video, Park Cameras, Canon DE, Canon UK, Canon IT, Canon FR
USA/Canada: Amazon USA, Amazon CA, B&H Photo, Adorama, Digitalrev, KEH Camera, eBay US, Canon USA, Canon CA, BestBuy

Canon RF mount lenses world-wide pre-order links:

Asia & Australia: AliExpress, Amazon JAPAN, Amazon CHINA, Amazon USA, Digitalrev, Adorama, B&H Photo, eBay Australia, Rakuten JP
Europe & UK: Amazon DE, Amazon UK, Amazon FR, Amazon IT, DigitalRev, eBay DE, Wex Photo Video, Park Cameras, Canon DE, Canon UK, Canon IT, Canon FR
USA/Canada: Amazon USA, Amazon CA, B&H Photo, Adorama, Digitalrev, KEH Camera, eBay US, Canon USA, Canon CA, BestBuy

Interview With Canon Engineers About the Canon EOS R

Canon Eos R Firmware

Dave Etchells of Imaging Resource had the chance to talk to Canon engineers about the brand new Canon EOS R.

Some excerpts:

Does the Canon EOS R really have 5,655 AF points?

[…]what’s being referred to are the number of AF point positions you can choose from, when in single-point mode and using the rear-panel arrow keys. When you press one of the arrow keys, the box showing the single AF “point” moves a small step in the chosen direction. Adding up the number of steps in each direction, you’d likely come up with the claimed 5,655 points.

Does AF coverage change with EF-mount lenses?

Since EF-mount lenses used via the adapter are so much further from the sensor surface, it seems likely that they wouldn’t be able to support as large an AF area as native RF-mount ones. I asked, and it turns out this is true. It will vary some based on the specific lens design, but some EF-mount lenses won’t have quite as wide AF coverage as the native ones. Native RF-mount coverage is 100% vertically and 88% horizontally, but some EF-mount lenses will only have 80% horizontal coverage (again, depending on the specific lens design).

How does EOS R autofocus compare to cameras like the 5D Mark IV?

[…]relative AF performance depended on the subject; that the EOS R would win sometimes and the 5D IV or 1D X II other times. They didn’t elaborate on what subjects they thought each would be best at, but I thought it was significant that it wasn’t all one way, and that the EOS R in fact would win some AF matchups, even against some of Canon’s top SLRs.

The entire interview can be read at Imaging Resource.


Pre-orders for the Canon EOS R are live. Shipping is expected to start in October 2018.

Pre-order in the USA, Canon EOS R: B&H Photo | Adorama | Canon USA | Amazon

Pre-order in the USA, Canon RF mount lenses: B&H Photo | Adorama | Canon USA | Amazon

Canon EOS R world-wide pre-order links:

Asia & Australia: AliExpress, Amazon JAPAN, Amazon CHINA, Amazon USA, Digitalrev, Adorama, B&H Photo, eBay Australia, Rakuten JP
Europe & UK: Amazon DE, Amazon UK, Amazon FR, Amazon IT, DigitalRev, eBay DE, Wex Photo Video, Park Cameras, Canon DE, Canon UK, Canon IT, Canon FR
USA/Canada: Amazon USA, Amazon CA, B&H Photo, Adorama, Digitalrev, KEH Camera, eBay US, Canon USA, Canon CA, BestBuy

Canon RF mount lenses world-wide pre-order links:

Asia & Australia: AliExpress, Amazon JAPAN, Amazon CHINA, Amazon USA, Digitalrev, Adorama, B&H Photo, eBay Australia, Rakuten JP
Europe & UK: Amazon DE, Amazon UK, Amazon FR, Amazon IT, DigitalRev, eBay DE, Wex Photo Video, Park Cameras, Canon DE, Canon UK, Canon IT, Canon FR
USA/Canada: Amazon USA, Amazon CA, B&H Photo, Adorama, Digitalrev, KEH Camera, eBay US, Canon USA, Canon CA, BestBuy

A Future Canon EOS R With 8K Video Is In The Realm of Possibilities, Canon Manager States

Canon Eos R Firmware

Japanese website MyNavi posted an interview with various Canon Managers about the company’s brand new full frame mirrorless camera, the Canon EOS R.

Some highlights from the interview:

  1. The Canon EOS R sensor is not the same as the sensor featured on the EOS 5D Mark IV. The EOS R sensor is a new development.
  2. The image quality of the Canon EOS R will beat any other Canon DSLR camera thanks to new sensors, new processors and new, high performing lenses
  3. Canon did not add on sensor stabilisation (IBIS) because of the costs, and heating and size issues. They might consider adding on sensor stabilization on future models
  4. There will be more EOS R models in the line-up. Expect lower and higher end models to be released in the future
  5. Canon is considering making a 8k Cinema EOS R camera

What do you think? Feel free to sound off in the comment section.

[via Mirrorless Rumors]

It’s just the beginning, says Sigma CEO Kazuto Yamaki

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DPReview interviewed Mr. Kazuto Yamaki during CP+. Most of the interview revolves around Sony and the E mount. Never the less, it’s an interesting interview.

Here are some excerpts:

The new 14-24mm F2.8 joins the 14mm F1.8 at the wide end of Sigma’s lineup – how do these two lenses compare, optically?

In terms of performance, the two lenses are equivalent. When it comes to zoom lenses, a standard zoom lens [like a 24-70mm] is quite challenging to design. We have to make compromises. However, the performance of wide and telephoto zoom lenses is very good, and [can be] equivalent to prime lenses. […]

If you have a choice between designing a lens that will be large, heavy, but optically amazing, or designing one that might be optically less impressive but smaller and lighter, how do you make that decision?

I personally want to develop excellent lenses, at the cost of size and weight […]

Is there a lens that does not exist right now, which you think should exist?

We successfully developed F1.8 zoom lenses for APS-C. This kind of lens did not exist before. Similarly our F2 zoom for full-frame. That kind of lens did not exist before, either. I can’t give you specific details but we would like to explore that path [further] […]

Read the interview at DPReview.

Well, I am very happy Sigma developed an f1.8 lens for APS-C cameras. It’s the incredible 18-35mm f/1.8 ART lens (canon rumors), a lens I like a lot.

Interview with Canon execs: increased competition allows us to level-up

Canon EOS M50

Above: The Canon EOS M50 is the company’s latest MILC – Canon USAB&H Photo | Adorama | Amazon (world wide)

DPReview posted an interview with Canon executives taken at CP+. They interviewed Yoshiyuki Mizoguchi, Group Executive of Imaging Communications Business Group, Go Tokura, Chief Executive Officer of Canon’s Image Communications Products Operation, and Naoya Kaneda, Advisory Director and Group Executive of Canon’s Optical Business Group.

Obviously, the interviewer asks about Canon’s latest mirrorless camera, the EOS M50 (canon rumors). Some excerpts from the interview:

How important is it for Canon to add higher-end mirrorless products to your lineup?

At Canon we have what’s called a ‘full lineup strategy’. This means that we want to satisfy all of the demands in the market, so we have mirrorless and also DSLR, which combined makes an EOS hierarchy. We want to fill the gaps to satisfy customer demands across the board […]

The EOS M50 offers 4K video and Dual Pixel CMOS AF, but not at the same time. Is there a technical reason for this limitation?

With the EOS 5D Mark IV, we do offer 4K video and Dual Pixel CMOS autofocus, so technically it is feasible. But given the position of the M50 in the lineup, we can’t include all of the features available in a product like the 5D IV […] [editor’s note: this sounds very much like “we won’t give it to you because the M50 is not expensive enough]

Another manufacturer that we spoke to estimated that Canon would have a full-frame mirrorless camera within a year. Is that realistic?

That would be nice, wouldn’t it? [editor’s note: the reference is to Mr. Kenji Tanaka, Sony executive, who said he thinks within a year both Canon and Nikon will have launched a full frame mirrorless camera]

Read the interview at DPReview.

Yes Canon, it would be nice to have a full frame mirrorless camera (possibly with EF mount). Just do it.

All EOS M50 pre-order links after the break.

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