No Canon EOS 6D Mark II because a full-frame mirrorless camera is coming instead? [CW3]

Canon FF mirrorless camera mock-up by David Riesenberg
Canon FF mirrorless camera mock-up by David Riesenberg

Weird rumor I got (thanks). It’s suggested there will be no Canon EOS 6D Mark II because Canon will launch a mirrorless camera with a full-frame sensor instead.

As weird as this rumor might appear, it’s not entirely impossible. The [shoplink 7139]EOS 6D[/shoplink] was (and still is) Canon’s entry-level DSLR to the world of full-frame cameras. Since it seems Canon started to take mirrorless seriously with the [shoplink 40697]EOS M5[/shoplink], why should they not work on a full-featured mirrorless full-frame camera?

Moreover, rumor has it that this full-frame mirrorless camera might come with an EF mount, which would mean all Canon EF lenses can be used without adapter. If the rumor about the EF mount is reliable, it might not be worth for Canon to sell an entry-level full-frame DSLR along with a full-featured full-frame mirrorless camera.

I am pretty sure there are prototypes of a Canon full-frame mirrorless camera undergoing first tests, not necessarily on the field, more likely in a lab setting. We also know that Canon filed various patents referring to lenses for a full-frame mirrorless camera (1 | 2). On the other hand, we also spotted a patent for an EF/EF-S adapter for a full-frame mirrorless camera. That Canon is working on such a camera is almost a sure thing, we got the rumor and reported it as first site in December 2014.

So far, anything about the EOS 6D Mark II is uncertain, the few specs we got look more like speculations than real leaks, and could also well apply to a mirrorless full-frame camera (especially the suggestion about Dual Pixel AF). The possible announcement date of the EOS 6D Mark II changed almost a half dozen times, it’s now pointing to summer 2017. Put straight: no one knows a thing for sure about the EOS 6D Mark II so far.

What do you think, might Canon replace the EOS 6D with a mirrorless camera? Let’s me know what you think in the poll and the comment section.

Will Canon produce a mirrorless full-frame camera instead of the EOS 6D Mark II?

  • Canon will make both the EOS 6D Mark II and a mirrorless full-frame cam (50%, 1,163 Votes)
  • Yes, a mirrorless full-frame camera will replace the EOS 6D (28%, 644 Votes)
  • No, there will be only an EOS 6D Mark II (22%, 496 Votes)

Total Voters: 2,303

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Canon full frame mirrorless camera still in works but not set to be announced for next years [CW3]

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We know since December 2014 that Canon is working on a full frame mirrorless camera, and we knew that it was a long term affair. We also knew that development of this full frame mirrorless camera saw delays because of issues related to the mount type. All this got another mention in a new rumoring about the fabled Canon full frame mirrorless camera, along with some new tidbits.

The latest murmurings suggest Canon is having troubles making EF lenses work, suggesting there will not be a new mount type. Instead, EF lenses would be mounted without an adapter. Such a full frame mirrorless camera is said to be announced not before 2018.

Could there be a full frame mirrorless camera with fixed lens, possibly before the MILC? Not unlikely. There is a patent pointing in that direction, which is a good sign at least. Another patent clearly shows that Canon is working on a full frame mirrorless camera. However, there is an interview with Canon execs that doesn’t really make you think Canon  is particularly enthusiastic about the idea.

[via Canon Rumors]

Debunking a myth: why Sony’s full-frame mirrorless cameras aren’t what Sony wants you to believe

Size advantage? Sony A7R vs Canon EOS 5Ds R (right), both with a 85mm lens.
Size advantage? Sony A7R vs Canon EOS 5Ds R (right), both with a 85mm lens (image courtesy of Camera Size)

I came over a very interesting and educated article at PetaPixel. It’s about why Sony’s full frame pro mirrorless was a fatal mistake that can’t hold up to the promises.

The article analyses five of the apparent advantages a full-frame mirrorless camera is supposed to have for the professional photographer, and systematically debunks those myths. A full-frame mirrorless camera is supposed to have the advantage of

  • Compactness
  • Weight
  • In-Body Image Stabilization
  • You can adapt non-native lenses
  • Live Exposure Preview

Well, it’s not as easy as Sony tries to sell it. The supposed advantages fail to deliver in the real world.. In the conclusion the author says:

So we find ourselves returning for the last time to the original question: what is the point of professional grade FF mirrorless? It isn’t for the compactness (beyond shooting with just one pancake type lens), certainly not for the faster autofocus, not for faster frame rates, not for EVF/exposure preview, not for access to a high cost-performance lens habitat, not for manual focus peaking, not for the ergonomics, and almost universally not for the sake of adapting lenses.

When it comes to FF professional grade mirrorless, the answer is that there is little or no point. People are buying into it because it is an irrational fad. You end up having to buy lots of big and expensive lenses for the one tiny body, when it is preferable to have lots of smaller lenses for the one big body, since the total lens-body combination is the same anyway due to physics. In actual fact the lens-body combination makes professional grade FF mirrorless multi-lens packages larger overall. Read the article…

An article that’s definitely worth to be read before you waste your money for something that will turn out not to be what you expected and what you have been told. Better go for serious gear.

[via PetaPixel]

Our rumor about a Canon full-frame mirrorless camera gets another mention

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Back in September I got a rumor suggesting Canon is actively working on a full-frame mirrorless camera. This very rumor today got another mention on the web.

I repost the rumor I got back in September:

I have been told (thanks) that Canon may indeed announce a full-frame mirrorless camera in 2016. I rate the rumor CW2 since I had so many misleading rumors about Canon’s mirrorless plans in the past. The source insisted to say that some sort of early prototype already exists, though it never came out of Canon’s labs. That’s to say that there are no test units out in the wild but just (if true) a prototype in a very early stage of development, still undergoing lab tests and development. It sounds at least plausible.

While I am sure Canon has the skills and the know-how to produce a full-frame mirrorless camera, I am pretty cautious with such rumors. A full-frame mirrorless camera is rumored since at least two years. The source promised to deliver some specs in the near future. We will see.

Unfortunately, we still do not have any specs. As I wrote back in September, the suggested mirrorless full-frame camera may likely be announced in 2016. Back then I rated the rumor CW2, today I tend more toward CW3.

The source who sent me the rumor in September promised to let me soon know more about Canon’s plans with a full-frame mirrorless camera. Stay tuned.

Is Canon Set To Release A New 4/3 Sensor Body? (Update)

Update: A friendly reader (thanks!) told me that the patent doesn’t refer to a 4/3 ratio but to a sensor with a 4/3 inch diagonal.

I am still puzzled by the Canon patent I wrote about yesterday, a patent referring to two lenses for a 4/3 format sensor: a 14-28mm f/1.4-2.4 and a 12-28mm f/2-3.2 lens. Since the only Canon camera sporting a 4/3 ratio sensor is the Powershot G1X I am wondering what is going on. Is Canon planning to release an interchangeable lens camera with 4/3 ratio sensor? Anyone?

 

Next EOS M And EOS 7D Mark II Rumors (Canon 2013 Roadmap Update)

New tidbits about Canon's 2013 announcements showed up, both here and at Canon Rumors. But not exactly the same tidbits.

Let's start with the EOS M. CR is reporting that

[…] one of the announcements will be to introduce a second EOS-M body. The body will be slightly bigger, and have a viewfinder. They will also introduce at least two new lenses with the body. I’d expect a telephoto zoom and a fast prime.

I have no information about a new EOS M mirrorless camera, my source told me that there will be new EOS-M lenses. Apparently Canon wants to see how well the EOS M is doing before releasing a more pro oriented body. I also got word (earlier) about two new EF-M lenses, but my source was referring to fast primes, a 35mm and a 50mm (f/2.8).

Next, the EOS 7D Mark II. Both here and at CR we got word that Canon will announce the EOS 7D Mark II before end of Q1. In addition I have been told that Canon will also announce the EOS 70D and a new Rebel (possibly the successor of the EOS 1100D). Three new DSLRs in Q1? Possible. No EOS 7D II specs.

Finally, the mighty big megapixel DSLR (~46 MB). While I have informations suggesting a Q3 announcement, CR is reporting a Q1 announcement, quoting:

The 40+ mp camera gets another mention and we should expect an announcement in Q1 of 2013. The camera will be physically bigger than the 5D Mark III, but will be smaller than the EOS-1D X. It’s noted that the sensor is currently in EOS-1D X styled bodies.

I am rather confident there will be new EF-M lenses, and also about the new DSLRs. And while I have been told Canon is testing the big megapixel DSLR, it could take some more time to get announced.