Canon EOS R With IBIS Is Coming, Canon Exec Says, And EF-M Mount Is Not Dead

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Amateur Photographer sat down with Canon execs at CP+ 2019, and the talk was about Canon’s mirrorless full frame EOS R system.

The short interview gives some interesting insights in Canon’s agenda. The EOS M is the mirrorless system with APS-C sensor, Canon confirms. However, when asked if they will make an EOS R with APS-C sensor, the answer is somewhat ambiguous while still confirming that the EF-M mount is the APS-C mirrorless mount. Judge by yourself:

AP: Are you going to keep EOS M in its existing form, or are you going to make a APS-C camera with the RF mount?


YM: That’s a product development for the future so I can’t go into detail, and the market will dictate what sort of direction we should take. If the customers do want a small size, lightweight mount I believe there is room for that, so as we said […] we will continue to work with the M mount.

When asked about IBIS the answer is more straightforward.

AP: There have been quite a lot of requests from customers and reviewers alike for IBIS on the EOS R, not to mention dual card slots. How do you respond to this?


YM: Yes, we are aware of these voices… We are thinking how we can develop the line-up. With the R and RP we look at the entirety of the package, as mentioned. In terms of IBIS, we are looking into it for the future. We believe IBIS will work together hand in hand with optical IS lenses, such as the ones you see in front of you, to offer better features.

There is more to grasp in the interview at Amateur Photographer.


Canon Has An EOS R Model With IBIS On Their Agenda

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The image on top shows a slide that was presented during the Canon EOS R announcement/presentation (so we were told).

If real it might give us reason to think Canon is indeed working on a full frame mirrorless camera with IBIS (In Body Image Stabilisation). Canon execs always stated that optical IS (i.e. image stabilisation in the lens) is the better technology. It seems they are about to change their mind, or maybe their just responding to user requests.

The Canon EOS RP, the company’s first entry level full frame mirrorless camera was announced yesterday. And it has a price that we didn’t expect from Canon. In an interview with Imaging Resource, Canon execs stated clearly that the EOS RP has the same internals as the EOS 6D Mark II, something we reported over two years ago.

I wonder when we will see a Canon mirrorless camera with IBIS, in one, two, three years?

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Canon EOS R Model With IBIS And 100MP In The Pipeline?

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The lack of IBIS (In Body Image Stabilisation) on the Canon EOS R stirred a lot of discussion. Along with the “no dual card slot” it’s the most mentioned shortcoming of Canon’s first full frame mirrorless camera.

No wonder that most rumors about future EOS R models revolve around IBIS, especially since a series of interviews with Canon execs killed a lot of potential EOS R rumors.

As most of you likely know, we expect Canon to announce at least one more EOS R model this year, and according to our sources it will be a high resolution model which could replace the the EOS 5Ds(R) lineup.

Latest from the rumor outlets has it that Canon has an EOS R model with IBIS and a 100MP sensor in the pipeline. Canon Rumors seems to be pretty confident about the fact that Canon will release an EOS R model with the specs listed above, though we will not see “such a camera until 2020”. It’s also unclear when Canon will embrace IBIS on their full frame mirrorless cameras.

Canon Watch’s take: While it’s entirely possible that Canon might working on a 100MP EOS R with IBIS, we feel at this point it’s little more than wishful thinking. We do not expect such a camera anytime soon. What we expect, is an EOS R model with a sensor resolution around 50MP.

If you want to know what Canon is going to do with the EOS R system we recommend you have a look at this interview.

Stay tuned…

Canon Patent For Basic IBIS (In Body Image Stabilisation) Used To Correct Lens Eccentricity

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What a neat coincidence. After a rumor about Canon featuring IBIS in future EOS R cameras, we can report a Canon patent application for a basic IBIS system spotted by Hi Lows Note.

The literature in patent application 2018-194766 seems to describe a basic IBIS system used to correct lens eccentricity. The image sensor can tilt in order to correct the lens eccentricity.

Machine translated excerpt:

[…] the optical instrument concerning the present invention, and its system, A camera device provided with the control means which carries out the tilt of the image sensor to an optic axis, It consists of a lens device provided with the detection means which detects the parameter to which the image formation performance of a lens is changed, The image sensor according to a parameter falls from the aforementioned lens device, information is transmited to the aforementioned camera device, and it is characterized by comprising the optical instrument which consists of the camera device in which the thing [ falling and carrying out the tilt of the image sensor to an optic axis based on information ] is possible, and its system.

As usual I’m glad for any help interpreting patent literature.

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IBIS To Be Featured On Future Canon EOS R Cameras? [CW2]

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The lack of IBIS (In Body Image Stabilisation) was one of the major criticism Canon had to face after the launch of the EOS R.

Canon always stated that image stabilisation in lens was superior. However, there are a few Canon patent applications dealing with IBIS technology (this one and this one). And we have a Canon exec stating that IBIS is something Canon might consider in the future, although they consider IS in the lens to be better. Quoting Canon UK’s product intelligence consultant, David Parry:

We [i.e. Canon, editor’s note] feel that in-lens IS is the optimum system for image stabilisation […]

With an in-body IS system you are creating something that needs to work over lots of different types of lenses and different lens groups, so you don’t get a dedicated system for that particular lens.

All lenses move in different ways, and you get different types of shake depending on what kind of lens you’re using, so dedicating the IS system to the particular lens is, for us, the optimum way of doing it – but that’s not to say that we aren’t looking at in-body IS.

That said, a rumor surfaced suggesting Canon might feature IBIS in future EOS R cameras. We think this is possible but not likely. If Canon wanted to bring IBIS to their full frame mirrorless camera they would have done it with from the start. This is not to say that Canon will never feature IBIS, but we think it won’t happen anytime soon.

Speak your mind in the comment section.

Here Is A Canon Patent For In Body Image Stabilisation (IBIS)

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Japanese site Hi Lows Note spotted the patent of the year.

Canon patent application in Japan 2018-165756 describes an IBIS (In Body Image Stabilisation) system.

The lack of IBIS was one of the criticism Canon had to face after the launch of the Canon EOS R. There have been various statements by Canon execs about how much better image stabilisation in lens is working. However, no one ever excluded the possibility Canon might feature IBIS on future cameras. At least now we know there is a Canon patent application for it. Interesting note: the picture on top is depicting a DSLR and not a mirrorless camera.

Machine translated excerpt from the patent literature:

The imaging device of the present invention is provided with an image sensor, the frame which supports the aforementioned image sensor, and the driving member which moves the aforementioned frame in the direction parallel to the imaging surface of the aforementioned image sensor, and the aforementioned vibrating member, It has a vibration portion which vibration occurs, it sees from the direction which intersects perpendicularly to the imaging surface of the aforementioned image sensor, and the vibration portion of at least one driving member overlaps the center of the imaging surface of the aforementioned image sensor.

What do you think, is Canon considering to sport IBIS on future cameras?